PILOT’S FORUM : PPRUNE PILOTS FORUM

PILOT’S FORUM : PPRUNE PILOTS FORUM

This paper is a discussion of the conditions for being able to contribute to the chat forums associated with carnicom.com. Numerous people posting on the chat board were removed due to unnecessary posts, or those that were offensive or simply lies. Many names of the offenders were posted.
SEN. LUGAR RECENT REPLY

SEN. LUGAR RECENT REPLY

Senator Richard Lugar’s reply to a letter sent to him by an anonymous writer claims that Senator Lugar has tried contacting various government agencies regarding aerosol programs, including the Department Of Defense (DoD), NASA, EPA and others. According to Senator Lugar, each agency replied stating that these were contrails and that these trails are normal and formed by condensation. Senator Lugar also makes the claim that reports of illnesses have no basis in face, as there is no data to back up these claims.
The Spirit of Independence by Diane Harvey

The Spirit of Independence by Diane Harvey

Diane Harvey’s work here is an emotional take on the present state of our country, culture and minds, and the challenges we face as a nation with the shadow powers that are working to destroy a free nation. Diane’s passion is obvious with statements like “The tide is flowing strongly against that energy which is the genuine spirit of independence”, “Independence means the practical opportunity to earn a living through our own intelligent activity, rather than as a nameless numbered biped in a multinational corporate Ubershark”, and “Have we then, as a nation, irrevocably traded the spirit of freedom for the noxious intoxicating vapors of spurious security?”
EPA REFUSES TO IDENTIFY SAMPLE

EPA REFUSES TO IDENTIFY SAMPLE

A letter from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to Clifford Carnicom states the intention of the EPA is to not analyze the samples sent to them by Mr. Carnicom previously. Rather, they attached their same letter of refusal from earlier in the year that describes their view that aerosols and such programs do not exist, and that it is normal contrails that are showing in the skies that people are reporting.
INQUIRY : RAINWATER ANALYSIS

INQUIRY : RAINWATER ANALYSIS

Two separate rainwater samples collected during the first substantial rains in Santa Fe, New Mexico on June 26th and 27th are analyzed under a microscope in this discussion. Both samples appear to show non-moving, double celled structures measuring 40-50 microns in diameter and showing up as separate structures and in clusters. After posting on the www.carnicom.com message board eliciting input from those with microbiology or microscopy experience in identifying these structures and receiving no responses, these structures were assumed to be pine pollen and discussion was discontinued. However, after receiving an anonymous response on the message board stating that pine pollen is used in clandestine genetic engineering experiments, this discussion was reopened. Anyone with microscopy and/or microbiology backgrounds who can help identify these structures, or give other relevant information regarding these structures, are invited to contact the Carnicom Institute with any and all data points to help in this regard.
SOUTH AFRICA FIBERS; NEWS REPORT CORROBORATES U.S. FINDINGS

SOUTH AFRICA FIBERS; NEWS REPORT CORROBORATES U.S. FINDINGS

A letter to the Rapport Newspaper in South Africa, Cape Edition on June 25, 2000 is the subject of this page. Sticky fibers were found falling from the sky and formed a blanket like appearance across fields, telephone poles, and barbed wire. Reports came in that cattle and lambs in the area had fallen ill after eating the ‘cotton-like fibers’, and farmers and town inhabitants believe the fiber origins are from airplanes seen in the area. These fibers sound identical to those found in the US and documented, tested and analyzed by the Carnicom Institute.
SYNTHETIC CLOUDS REVEALED

SYNTHETIC CLOUDS REVEALED

Photographs were captured and presented that show the effects of a non-aerosol spraying plane ‘cutting through’ a cloud layer, and the resulting evacuation of the clouds from the plane’s flight path. The absence of mass of the cloud materials after the plane passage shows the clouds to have density, form and behavior unbecoming of water vapor, and have all the appearances of being at least in part of a synthetic nature. The photograph captures demonstrate these ‘clouds’ not being fully of water vapor as may commonly be assumed.
EPA DEEMED NEGLIGENT

EPA DEEMED NEGLIGENT

A copy of a certified letter sent by Clifford Carnicom on June 9, 2000 to Carol M. Browner, the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), is attached in this paper that outlines how Ms. Browner has been negligent in not investigating and analyzing hazardous biological samples sent previously to the EPA that pose human health risks. This letter makes clear that Ms. Browner and the EPA are responsible for reporting to the American public, and having not been forthcoming with an interest to look into the requests for sample analysis, Ms. Browner and the EPA are to be held accountable for the lack of integrity of the EPA.
RADAR IMAGE

RADAR IMAGE

An email was received by the Carnicom Institute reporting an animated radar image showing an extraordinary ring structure in southwester Utah on May 30, 2000.
FBI CONTACTED

FBI CONTACTED

Incidents are described where the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) needed to be contacted numerous times regarding certain actions publicly committed or proclaimed against Clifford Carnicom, including impersonation, libel, hacking, and death threats.
AN AIRLINE MANAGER’S STATEMENT

AN AIRLINE MANAGER’S STATEMENT

After reading the account of the airline mechanic in the previous Carnicom paper titled “A MECHANIC’S STATEMENT (dated May 19, 2000), an anonymous upper level manager from an unnamed airline was compelled to write to Clifford Carnicom. He stated that the mechanic’s story was true, and that he had information regarding this airline’s participating in Operation Cloverleaf, which is known to be a military aerosol operation. He and other workers were briefed on this operation, background checks were performed on everyone involved, and they were forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement stating that if they said anything about the program they could be imprisoned. They were informed that the government was going to pay the airline to release special chemicals from the commercial aircraft. When asked what the chemicals were, they were told this was on a need to know basis only. They were also told that there weren’t enough military aircraft to spray these chemicals, which was why the commercial airlines were paid to release these chemicals. This was the main reason Project Cloverleaf was put into existence. The manager expressed grief for being involved in something that he felt was poisonous, and apologized for needing to maintain anonymous.
A MECHANIC’S STATEMENT

A MECHANIC’S STATEMENT

An aircraft mechanic wrote to Clifford Carnicom and told his story about working as a maintenance technician at a large airport. After outlining the pecking order of the mechanics and reciprocal agreements among airliners at airports, this mechanic spoke about being asked to work on the waste disposal system on a plane for another airline. After climbing inside the plane, the mechanic noticed that there were additional tanks, pumps, and pipes than normal, and they weren’t attached to the waste disposal system. Confused about this extra equipment, the mechanic looked up the additional equipment on the company computer, but found nothing. Climbing into another plane during inspections, he found another plane with the extra equipment, including what looked like a holding tank. After following some of the piping, the mechanic realized the piping went out to nozzles at the end of the wings. The mechanic had been spotted by management and was confronted about doing this investigation by managers and union reps. He was accused of falsifying paperwork for a job he did, and later received an anonymous phone call at home with the caller saying ‘Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn’t.” After finding the Carnicom web site, the mechanic wrote this letter to Clifford Carnicom attesting to the fact that the airlines are indeed spraying from these airplanes.